Season 3, episode 22: how are you doing — really?

“Working with you on that episode really showed me that it’s worth it to push through and take on a topic that could elicit strong reactions, as opposed to playing it safe.”

— Eve Bishop

Laura and Eve Bishop met a little over a year ago—but so much has changed since that it feels like a lifetime. They talk about the challenges and changes that have shaped them, what unifies their work, and why they’re still feeling hopeful even in this time of division.


Thanks to all longtime listeners and new subscribers, we’re halfway to our goal of reaching 10,000 downloads a month! You’d make our day by sharing our season 3 trailer with a thoughtful friend.


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